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Cool Smart People - Your Podcast Is Not a Show. It’s a Product. Roberto Capodieci
Uncategorized Roberto Capodieci 05 September 2025
Guest: Doug Thompson — Sales Engineer (ex-Microsoft), AI ambassador, host of The Doug Thompson podcast
Show: Interchain.me
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Doug Thompson’s superpower isn’t code—it’s translation. After decades in pre-sales at Microsoft and now Tanium, Doug helps non-technical buyers grasp why complex tech matters. His lens: tell true stories in the customer’s language, set ethical guardrails, and adopt AI with a crawl-walk-run plan.
People buy outcomes, not effort. Your six-month build vs. one-afternoon hack is irrelevant; saving money, time, or risk isn’t.
Audience first. IT admins might love architecture diagrams; CMOs won’t. Translate value into their vocabulary.
Make it relatable. Doug learned this early—explain repairs in plain terms and customers stop bristling at the invoice.
“Founders are passionate about what they built. Buyers care about why it matters—in their words.”
Two camps: the Terminator worriers and the “AI can do everything” optimists. The best adopters live between—curious, cautious, measurable.
Assistant, not overlord. Use AI to curate research, draft, triage, and summarize. Always validate (hallucinations are real).
Crawl → Walk → Run. Start with low-risk automation; layer human approvals; then expand scope. Keep probes and audits in place.
Cybersecurity triage: sift noise, highlight true risk, let humans focus on incidents that matter.
Patch automation: orchestrate the tedious steps; alert when something fails; free teams for higher-value work.
Ops copilot: news curation, quick briefs, and “explain like I’m five” primers for industry contexts.
Job disruption: low-skill, repetitive roles will shift. Upskill operators to control the robots they once tended.
Bad actors move fast: malware-as-a-service, deepfakes, synthetic identities—assume adversaries are using AI today.
Don’t over-promise. AI still mishears accents, fabricates sources, and fails at nuance. Set expectations; ship value; iterate.
Humanoids grab headlines, but the near-term impact is unglamorous and real: co-bots, autonomous tractors, pick-and-place arms that learn faster. If you understand the assembly process and can drive the robot, your value grows.
Policy lags reality. Lawmakers need “ELI5” explanations to legislate wisely; technologists must help without condescension.
Leapfroggers win. Regions without legacy systems can adopt faster (fewer constraints), though power and data-center capacity still bottleneck.
Elder care use case: simple voice AIs reduce repetitive burden (“What time is lunch?”), freeing staff for human care.
Shift from memorization to how to think and how to use AI responsibly. Teachers become curators; students build proof-of-work portfolios (GitHub, writing, small projects). Credentials matter; visible outcomes matter more.
Publish short, useful pieces.
Tell stories in your voice (frameworks are reusable; authenticity isn’t).
Engage where your buyers are (Doug: “the Doug Thompson” on LinkedIn).
Think “proof of work”: show, don’t tell.
Start with the problem. If the buyer can’t nod to the pain, you’re not ready to pitch.
Translate outcome metrics. Time saved, risk reduced, revenue unlocked—attach numbers when possible.
Use micro-stories. A relatable anecdote beats a feature list.
Close with next steps. Pilot scope, success criteria, and timeline.
Crawl: assistive use (research, summaries), low-risk automations with human review.
Walk: workflow orchestration, policy-backed approvals, alerting, and audit.
Run: agentic actions on well-defined rails; continuous measurement and red-teaming.
“Don’t replace people—replace drudgery.”
“AI should make you more you, not less human.”
“Set the expectation right: we’ll crawl first, then walk, then run.”
“Outcomes beat effort. Every time.”
Doug reminds us that the hardest part of selling advanced tech isn’t the model or the stack—it’s meaning. If you can surface the right story, set the right guardrails, and show real before/after outcomes, AI becomes inevitable and helpful—without the hype hangover.
Recorded for Interchain.me. Host: Roberto Capodieci. Guest: Doug Thompson.
Doug Thompson: “the Doug Thompson” on LinkedIn; host of The Doug Thompson podcast; writing a book on storytelling for technical professionals.
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